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5.06 Transcript of Interview Clip from Saigon Entertainment TelevisionFS fJrgB11SNED \9j1 File #: 21-272, Item #: 5.6 City of Westminster Staff Report Westminster City Council To: Honorable Mayor and City Council Thru: Christine Cordon, Interim City Manager From: Christine Cordon, Interim City Manager Reviewed by: Erin Backs, Finance Director Prepared by: Christine Cordon, Interim City Manager S11R.IFCT- Transcript of Interview Clip from Saigon Entertainment Television. RECOMMENDED ACTION/MOTION: 8200 Westminster Boulevard Westminster, California 92683 Meeting Date: 10/13/2021 Staff recommends that the Mayor and City Council consider the translated transcript and provide direction regarding the video interview. BACKGROUND/DISCUSSION: At the August 25, 2021 regular meeting, the City Council approved a request made by Council Member Tai Do to have a YouTube video translated in English. The interview was conducted by Saigon Entertainment Television and featured Council Member Kimberly Ho discussing the previous city manager recruitments, the Quang Tri Victory Monument, and the hiring of former council member Tyler Diep as a consultant. As a follow-up and as agreed at the meeting, Council Member Do is requesting the transcript be discussed for further direction. The video is titled, "Phong Su Cong Hong I Kimberly Ho 107/08/2021," and is linked at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWaWUt5gDCA>. The video was put into a transcript format in Vietnamese and then translated to English by Reliable Translations, Inc., a Los Angeles -based professional translation/interpreting firm. Staff noticed there were typographical and name errors within the document. However, staff did not edit the transcripts in any way to ensure the integrity of the transcripts being provided by the company. City of Westminster Pagel of 2 Printed on 10/7/2021 powered by LegistarTM File #: 21-272, Item #: 5.6 FISCAL IMPACT: None ATTACHMENTS: English Transcript Vietnamese Transcript Meeting Date: 10/13/2021 City of Westminster Page 2 of 2 Printed on 10/7/2021 powered by LegistarTM [00:00:00] [music] Doan Trong: We would like to warmly welcome the audience to our program tonight [00:00:10] on today's Community Reports. Today, we have an opportunity to meet with a doctor and council member of the City of Westminster. Dear audience, this is madame Kimberly Ho. [00:00:20] We warmly welcome you [doctor] here with us today. Kimberly Ho: I [Kimberly] would like to say hello to our respected audience. Doan Trong: Dear doctor, the reason why we would like you, doctor, to have an opportunity to share [00:00:30] with our audience, especially the residents of the City of Westminster, after they have heard a decision from you, doctor, with all the events happening recently [00:00:40] those events have been referred to a lot, that is about the Monument of Re -Occupy Quang Tri Ancient Citadel. Everything is good now. But our audience would like to know the details [00:00:50] discussed by the Westminster City Council. I think, doctor, with your experience in some events that relate to the City of Westminster, perhaps, you have experience to share with all your voters [00:01:00], share with people who have been close to you, doctor, for a long time. So, how long have you been living in the City of Westminster? Kimberly: I [Kimberly] have been living in this city [00:01:10] on and off since 2009. Doan Trong: Yes, but I can see you [doctor] have served as a council member for one term already. [00:01:20] This is your second term. Also, before that, you were one of the members of the Planning Commission, weren't you [doctor]? Kimberly: Yes, this is true. [00:01:30] Doan Trong: So, you [doctor] have a long history with the City of Westminster. Please tell us something that you want to share today, to the best of your knowledge. [00:01:40] Before, we mentioned the City of Westminster, the city, more or less the Capital City of our refugees. Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: And many of our Vietnamese American council members [00:01:50], or more specific, our Vietnamese people have made a lot of contribution to this city. Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: The responsibility, [00:02:00] one of the positions mentioned in the OC Register, as well as OC Voice, there is a detail, one time, there is an appointment of a person whose name was Chu Thai, is it correct doctor? [00:02:10] Mr. Chu Thai or Mr. Thai Chu, do you know? Kimberly: Mr. Chu Thai. Doan Trong: Mr. Chu Thai. How come the city, why we have everyone here in the city, why do we need to appoint another person [00:02:20] as the City Manager, who is also Vietnamese American, do you [doctor] know? File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 Kimberly: Yes, I [Kimberly] would like to correct that the city [00:02:30] did not appoint. Doan Trong: Not yet appoint. Kimberly: Not yet appoint. Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: Mr. Chu Thai, he applied then we, at that time, we were recruiting [00:02:40] a City Manager. That's the new City Manager, because the previous City Manager, he left [00:02:50] the city in February 2020. Doan Trong: Right. So, that position was open. [00:03:00] Kimberly: Yes, that's correct. Doan Trong: And Mr. Chu Thai was an applicant - Kimberly: Yes, correct. Doan Trong: for that position. Kimberly: But he wasn't approved. Doan Trong: Not approved. Kimberly: Because after Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: he applied then at the end we did not hire him. [00:03:10] We did not hire him. Doan Trong: But there is a reason, why I invited you [doctor] here today, because many of our audience asked that many persons have a history with this city [00:03:20] but nobody has heard of Mr. Chu Thai. Then out of nowhere, there is an issue with Mr. Chu Thai and some public opinions were that he is close to [00:03:30] Mr. Tran Thai Van, who is one of the people who guided and helped him to get the position as City Manager. Can you [doctor] tell us more about that? Kimberly: Oh, at that time [00:03:40] when Mr. Chu Thai applied, we did not know where he was from. Doan Trong: Yes. Kimberly: Because we [the city] were recruiting [00:03:50] all over the United States. That was why we did not know, but afterwards, we heard that he was recommended by Mr. Tran Thai Van. Right. [00:04:00] File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 04 Doan Trong: Oh, wow. You just told us that he was recommended by Mr. Tran Thai Van. How do we know that he was recommended by Mr. Tran Thai Van, do you [doctor] know? Kimberly: Yes, it is known that Mr. Tran Thai Van had [00:04:10] introduced him. Doan Trong: Okay. Kimberly: Yes, and I [Kimberly] heard about that. Doan Trong: Oh, so he was introduced. Right, perhaps, he is one of the attorneys, one of the representatives [00:04:20] from precinct 68 in Sacramento for our city, then he would see who would qualify, then he would introduce to the city. At the end, it looks like Mr. Chu Thai [00:04:20] was not chosen for that position, does it sound about right, doctor? Kimberly: No, he wasn't. Doan Trong: Right. With that event, the result should be we need three people. [00:04:40] Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: But there were only two people there, is that right, doctor? Kimberly: Yes, that's correct. Doan Trong: So, while the position is vacant, who was acting as the City Manager, do you know, doctor? [00:04:50] Kimberly: Yes, during the time the position was vacant, Mrs. Sherry Johnson was the one. Doan Trong: Mrs. Sherry Johnson. I see. Kimberly: Sherry Johnson. Doan Trong: So, she was the interim, and how long was her term, [00:05:00] do you know, doctor? Kimberly: Yes, we, it looks like, the city contracted with her from February until August. Doan Trong: So, February until August [00:05:10]. Right. Kimberly: From February until... oh, from February until February 2021. And, after that, extended until August, maybe. [00:05:20]. Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: May be August. Right. File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 3 Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: I [Kimberly] don't remember for sure Doan Trong: As a council member, also as a Vice Mayor, what kind of relationship have you [doctor] had [00:05:30] with Mrs. Sherry Johnson? Kimberly: Right. Mrs. Sherry Johnson, she worked for the city. She was the [00:05:40] Director of Finance and she has been with the city for more or less [00:05:50] 30 years. Doan Trong: Oh, is that so. So, during the time she was working, could you tell us a bit more. Kimberly: Sure. Doan Trong: So, during the time she was the Interim City Manager, was there anything [00:06:00] that you were not pleased with, or did you see that she was not qualified to take care of that position as the City Manager? Kimberly: No, I [Kimberly] encouraged her to [00:06:10] apply for this permanent position. Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: So, at first, she applied for the position. [00:06:20] Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: Right, she applied. Doan Trong: Oh. Kimberly: But she was not chosen, at first, Mr. Chu Thai was chosen. Doan Trong: The first time. Kimberly: After that, Mr. Chu Thai was not chosen anymore, because of [00:06:30] many reasons that I [Kimberly] don't feel comfortable to talk about here today. Doan Trong: Right, right, right. Kimberly: On screen, I [Kimberly] oh, we should be [00:06:40] polite to that person a bit. Doan Trong: No, we don't have time, we won't go any further on this matter. Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: We only know the recruiting process is like that, and Mrs. Sherry Johnson [00:06:50] applied once and was not chosen. File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 4 Kimberly: Right Doan Trong: After that, there were some reasons that the council did not officially choose Mr. Chu Thai. Then she was the one in that [00:07:00] position, the City Manager? Kimberly: Yes, that's correct. Doan Trong: Oh, so when that person left, why was Mrs. Sherry Johnson not chosen? Kimberly: This is a very good question, [00:07:10] sir. Because no one has ever asked about this, but now that you ask, I [Kimberly] have the responsibility to [00:07:20] to tell the truth. Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: Telling the truth, it is because she did not want, she did not want to apply [00:07:30] the second time, because she felt, since the first time she applied for the position to the second time, [00:07:40] it was only one or two months. Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: she felt a lot of pressure. Doan Trong: Wow. Kimberly: Right. Because [00:07:50] oh, I don't know if you want me to tell everything or not. Doan Trong: Today, I am asking you [doctor] questions, I will listen to whatever you are telling me, and if there is something that I don't understand, I will ask you, that's about it. [00:08:00] Kimberly: When she had a lot of pressure from the Mayor and she felt that there were a lot of things that she could not do. And [00:08:10] when she was under that pressure, she worried about her — position, and her job. Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: Therefore, she did not apply after that. [00:08:20] Not only she did not apply she also retired. She retired. Yes. Doan Trong: So, doctor, we were a bit concerned when you [doctor] mentioned that [00:08:30] Mrs. Sherry Johnson while holding the City Manager position, she got a lot of pressure from the Mayor, Mr. Ta Duc Tri. Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: What was that pressure like, [00:08:40] doctor? File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 Kimberly: And, so she, example, like a position, such as economic development. [00:08:50] About this, there is a public record act, so this is public information, nothing more than that. Doan Trong: That's public. [00:09:00] Kimberly: Right, therefore, we do not want to hide anything. She said that she was under pressure to hire someone [00:09:10] for the position of economic development officer, and she felt that she did not want to hire that person, and there were many [00:09:20] reasons and she felt that person was not qualified. Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: So, doctor, when you say something like that, what do you base that on, so that [00:09:30] you know that Mrs. Sheri Johnson was under pressure from the Mayor, Mr. Ta Duc Tri? Kimberly: Right, it is her who told me [Kimberly]. Doan Trong: Oh, that's her who told you [doctor]? Kimberly: Yes, that's true. Doan Trong: Oh, wow. But as a council member, [00:09:40] when you [doctor] hear and know that a person who works for the city, and that person is under pressure to appoint someone at the request of [00:09:50] the Mayor. Why didn't you talk about this in a meeting or why didn't you tell Mr. Ta Duc Tri? "You should not do that." Because if doing so to an employee -- [00:10:00] we — we lost someone who is faithful, some well qualified person to work for us, why didn't you [doctor] talk to him about this? Kimberly: So, I [Kimberly] mentioned it. Doan Trong: Mentioned it, yeah. [00:10:10] Kimberly: And after this happened, Mrs. Sherry Johnson decided to retire. Doan Trong: Oh, yeah, yeah. Kimberly: She said she did not want to stay. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Right. [00:10:20] Doan Trong: So, to your [doctor] understanding and experience, so — Oh, we may not have much time. Kimberly: Right. File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 Doan Trong: And we will have more questions for you. You are following us on our Community Reports [00:10:30] and we will be back momentarily. [m usic] [00:10:40] [music] Doan Trong: You are following us on our program [00:10:50] today, we are talking about the City of Westminster, the community that we are all proud of. It's — may be our Capital City, the Capital City for the refugees. Back to where we left off, [00:11:00] Mrs. Sherry Johnson, doctor. Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: So, all the council members and the Mayor have the power, use their power, [00:11:10] personal power to, pressure someone holding the position as a City Manager, to appoint people of their choice. Are these things that you all do? [00:11:20] Or it is called "cross the line"? [00:11:22] doctor? Kimberly: Oh, no, no. As a Council Member or as the Mayor — we must not pressure others. Doan Trong: Not put [00:11:30] some pressure. Kimberly: Right. This is the capacity of the City Manager. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Right, they [City Manager] will hire whoever qualifies. Doan Trong: Yeah. I would like to ask you [doctor] that have you ever appointed [00:11:40] someone using the pressure of the Vice Mayor, as well as a Council Member? Kimberly: No. We should not use pressure and I [Kimberly] have never [00:11:50] recommended anyone for the appointment. Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: It is illegal to do so Doan Trong: Yeah. Dear audience, [00:12:00] as you know, the City of Westminster recently is one of the cities that continually have controversial issues. However, it is now the time for us to have our right to listen, [00:12:10] the right to understand. And we have our right to question the people who are holding positions that bring about pride for Vietnamese Americans. [00:12:20] Whether good or bad, this city is one of the cities that is known to all Vietnamese in the world as the Capital City for our refugees, [00:12:30] where there is lot of contribution from our Vietnamese people. Therefore, while as the Vietnamese American Mayor, he used pressure, or made someone leave [00:12:40] someone was very capable. Because she — we know that File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 Mrs. Sherry Johnson is one of the people who has worked with the City of Westminster for nearly three decades [00:12:50] the one who made no mistakes, who had no bad behaviors, there was no dent in her profile. And in the end, because of pressure she had to leave. So, we can see [00:13:00] clearly that it is time for our city to be open and we need to do everything according to democracy. It is because of democracy that we left our country. [00:13:10] Now, we are back to our own track. We always say that the communists are suppressants. But now, there is no reason for us to fall in the same track. And we hope that through this talk show, [00:13:20] we will invite Mr. Ta Duc Tri for him to have the chance and voice clearing of these issues for our citizens. Everything related to the issue of Mrs. [00:13:30] Sherry Johnson. Those are a few issues that we would like to mention today. Oh, and follow up is one of the positions — doctor, would it be alright if we mention [00:13:40] the City Manager position? Kimberly: That is alright. Yes. Doan Trong: Then, afterwards, we also know that the city has appointed — oh, we can say that [00:13:50] the city agreed to put Mr. Taylor Diep on the list, not exactly appoint, but the city reviewed Mr. Taylor Diep's profile to be a candidate for the position of City Manager when [00:14:00] the position was vacant, is it correct, doctor? Kimberly: Yes, this is correct. Oh, for the second time, we were filling out more vacant positions. [00:14:10] While recruiting for the City Manager position, Mr. Taylor Diep applied for this position in the second recruitment. Doan Trong: Yeah. So, this time, do you [doctor] feel pressure from someone? [00:14:20] Kimberly: Yes, a lot of pressure, strong pressure. I [Kimberly] myself received a lot pressure, many people lobby. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: And [00:14:30] when I [Kimberly] did not vote, I did not use my ballot to vote for Mr. Taylor Diep, then the [00:14:40] people like Tri Ta, Tran Thai Van, and Mai Tri, etc., they were all very upset. Doan Trong: Oh. Kimberly: And they... Doan Trong: You [doctor] said that they are upset, why they are upset [00:14:50] with you, doctor? Kimberly: Because they wanted Mr. Taylor Diep to be chosen. Doan Trong: Oh. Kimberly: Chosen to be the City Manager. File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 Doan Trong: Oh, [00:15:00] but according to our understanding, the Republican Party in Orange County did not support Mr. Ta Duc Tri as a nominated candidate to be the elected official. Oh, the elected official position [00:15:10] in federal and state precinct 72... Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: Because he has some election issues which are against the guidelines of the Republican Party. [00:15:20] As far as I understand as a journalist, I know that. So, at the end, the committee of the Republican Party in Orange County did not support him. [00:15:30] So you are one of many who understand that, why don't you appoint a person — who did not get the support from — not nominated by the Republican Party in Orange County for [00:15:40] the position of City Manager, how come, do you know, doctor? Kimberly: Are you talking about the City Manager position? Doan Trong: Yes. Kimberly: Right, [00:15:50] Mr. Ta Duc Tri wanted Mr. Taylor Diep to hold that position. Doan Trong: Oh. Kimberly: Yes, it is that simple. He, and Mr. Tran Thai Van [00:16:00] according to the lobbying statement from Mr. Tran Thai Van -- Doan Trong: I see. Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: So, now, the matter is like this. Mr. Tran Thai Van, he has nothing to do with the City of [00:16:10] Westminster. Mr. Tran Thai Van is from another precinct. Mr. Tran Thai Van is a politician who has worked in Sacramento as [00:16:20] a state elected official. He has the right to lobby for all other people, so is there any relation to Mr. Taylor Diep in this? So, the situation looks like [00:16:30] grouping or siding together, to build up their own side, own organization to conquer this city, is it correct, doctor? Kimberly: So [00:16:40] perhaps before, I [Kimberly] also know that they have some kind of relationship, together with each other for many years. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: So who was the person that we can say [00:16:50] blocked the campaign to appoint Mr. Taylor Diep to the City Manager position, so that it was not successful? Whose vote made this not to happen, doctor? File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 [00:17:00] Kimberly: Oh, that's my [Kimberly's] vote. My [Kimberly's] one vote is the reason that Mr. Taylor Diep was not chosen to be... Doan Trong: Oh, wow. Kimberly: ... the City Manager. Right, [00:17:10] if I [Kimberly] voted, and of course, if I had the decisive vote, then today, Mr. Taylor Diep, would be the City Manager of the City of Westminster. [00:17:20] Doan Trong: So now, doctor, this question is for you only. If you want to share, then we are listening to you. We would like to hear it from you. Why didn't you trust Mr. Taylor Diep to be the City Manager? [00:17:30] Kimberly: When Mr. Tran Thai Van came. And when Mr. Tran Thai Van met me [Kimberly] [00:17:40] at an event in the city. He came to ask me [Kimberly] why there is [00:17:50] some discontent, that right now, people are discontent. Why is there some discontent between the group of Mr. Ta Duc Tri, Nguyen Manh Tri, Taylor Diep and I [Kimberly]. Then he said that... [00:18:00] Then I [Kimberly] responded that: "Oh, because they wanted me [Kimberly] to vote for Mr. Taylor Diep to be the City Manager". [00:18:10] Then Mr. Tran Thai Van said: "Oh, why didn't you vote? Mr. Taylor Diep was your [Kimberly's] friend. Then I [Kimberly] [00:18:20] understood. Of course, as for me, I don't think the way they were working was correct. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Therefore, I don't communicate with them anymore, [00:18:30] and I did not say anything more. Doan Trong: So, after doctor decided not to trust Mr. Taylor Diep to... Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: ... the City Manager position Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: the relationship between people [00:18:40] who were working in the city toward you [doctor] as well as the relationship between you and Mr. Tran Thai Van, is it different than before? Kimberly: Who are we talking about, the people working in the city? Doan Trong: Like, [00:18:50] Mr. Ta Duc Tri, like Mr. Nguyen Manh Tri Kimberly: Oh, yes. Doan Trong: as well as Mr. Tran Thai Van, is there anything different, doctor? Kimberly: Totally different. File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 IN Doan Trong: How different, doctor? [laughs] Kimberly: We may say, different that [00:19:00] from January to February, since I did not use my vote to hire Mr. Chu Thai. Until later, [00:19:10] then he — oh, we were talking about Mr. Taylor Diep to be the City Manager. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Those are two events happening, then [00:19:20] they were not — in general, they were not, they were very upset. They said — of course, they showed the upset in their faces, I understand that — they were upset. I was also [00:19:30] not — because for me [Kimberly], I do what is right, I do not care if a person is happy with me or not. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Because I work very [00:19:40] professionally Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: I do what is right, and if it's not right, I don't do it. And if being friends means using each other, then I am not their friend. Doan Trong: Because the doctor must have the doctor's values. Kimberly: Yes, that's correct. Doan Trong: with one of the [00:19:50] council members. You are following with us on a special report. And today, you have the chance to directly listen to a council member of the City of Westminster [00:20:00] talking about the events relating to the positions that represent our citizens in the City of Westminster. We will be right back. [music] Commercial: To show gratefulness to our customers and to give some [00:20:10] help during the pandemic, we have a program called Gratefulness with Tons of Fortune. You can buy all ginseng products from International Home Shopping and receive full credit with the money paid. For more information, please call 714-868- 6868. You can follow our program [00:20:30] broadcast live on the following networks Southern California 57.11, 14.3, San Jose 16.11, [00:20:40] Houston, Texas 27.2, App: SET Group TV. This program is also available on all Android devices, iOS, [00:20:50] Roku, Amazon, smart phone, Pad and especially on Samsung app. SET Black Ginseng, the gift from GOD, help increase the immunization, [00:21:00] fight against the pandemic globally. [00:21:10] [music] Doan Trong: You are with us in a [00:21:20] special talk show with council member Kimberly Ho. You may know that the doctor and council member came to settle in the United States in 1975. [00:21:30] You may also know about her family. She is the first daughter of an artillery colonel. He was very active in community events. File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 11 [00:21:40] He passed away. However, his values have been the pride of the artillery men and Orange County in particular [00:21:50] and — we may say nationwide, even for people staying in Vietnam. And we are saying this because, currently, you all may know that any person, if having done something [00:22:00] not agreeable will be labeled a betrayer, traitor, and friendly to communists. [laughs] So, we just say that, but you have the right to think, in order to evaluate everything, [00:22:10] what is right and what is wrong. But now, doctor, recently, you are one of the main figures in an issue. We can say you are a focus person [00:22:20] in the matter against that committee to build a Monument of Re -Occupy Quang Tri in Freedom Park, is it correct? [00:22:30] Kimberly: Yes, it is correct. Doan Trong: So, is it related to the matters you have mentioned above in the past, about the appointment of Mr. Chu Thai. Then the matter of appointment of [00:22:40] Mr. Tyler Diep. And the matter that you [doctor] know all the pressure that people have imposed on this city. Therefore, you [doctor] have done so, [00:22:50] or is it something else that you decide to do so? Kimberly: Dear Mr. Doan Trong, dear audience, these are different things. As a professional, when at work, [00:23:01] we need to separate each matter. The first one, the matter in the past about Mr. Chu Thai [00:23:10] or Mr. Tyler Diep, are done. Then after that we review... originally, I [Kimberly] was not involved in the Monument [00:23:20] of Re -Occupy Quang Tri Ancient Citadel. But because I listened to the veterans Doan Trong: Oh, I see Kimberly: they complained a lot since March. Then I was thinking that [00:23:30] Mr. Ta Duc Tri is the main person of the project. Then he is the one to handle or going to handle the project. But until April, May, then June and we did not see anything happen [00:23:40] and the veterans' complaints become louder. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: That's the reason why I [Kimberly] had to step in. But before I stepped in, I also called [00:23:50] the City Attorney. Because as you may know, when a person, like us, an elected official, there is no way that [00:24:00] three people in the City Council are together on one project Doan Trong: Right Kimberly: Dear audience, about the committee for construction of the Monument of [00:24:10] Re -Occupy Quang Tri Ancient Citadel. In December, we approved 5/5. It meant that five people voted to complete [00:24:20] this project. By that time, we only knew that Mr. Ta Duc Tri is the main person of that project. Doan Trong: Yeah. File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 12 Kimberly: [00:24:30] Then after, we suddenly heard that, knew that Mr. Tran Thai Van is the president of the foundation, in a higher position, [00:24:40] above Mr. Ta Duc Tri. And Mr. Ta Duc Tri and Mr. Nguyen Manh Tri are in the committee to build the monument. Therefore, there is a conflict of interest. [00:24:50] But I [Kimberly] think there will be some organization and there will be FBBC, they will look into it and they will decide the involvement of these people. Then, you all may know that [00:25:00] they are like referees and the soccer players in the soccer game they play, and we can clearly see the conflict. However, I [Kimberly] will not mention it, just telling you so you know. [00:25:10] When two persons are already in the committee, and they do not make a decision and they do not listen to the veterans. I [Kimberly] did not [00:25:20] want to step in. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: However, like I said. There are more and more complications over time. Therefore, I had to step in [00:25:30] to see what happened. Right. Doan Trong: So, doctor, back to the present, when you are [doctor] telling us some issue relating to the appointment [00:25:40] of the City Manager. Recently, there is an issue that I also had the chance to interview Mrs. Shark Nguyen in our studio. Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: Relating to Mr. Tyler Diep, [00:25:50] being paid by the city. To do some work, that we may say, it was not that clear. Of course, he is not a lobbyist. [music] Because he could not lobby, [00:26:00] he may be a consultant, liaison. But that position has never existed in the city, is it correct? Have you ever appointed someone to go to Sacramento or to appoint someone to [00:26:10] Washington DC to do that job? Kimberly: We have a person, called the lobbyist. Doan Trong: Lobbyist, yeah. Kimberly: That the city, that we call lobbyist - Doan Trong: Yeah. [00:26:20] Kimberly: not the consultant. That person is the lobbyist of the city to go to Washington DC. Doan Trong: Yeah. But is that person still in the job, do you know doctor? Kimberly: No. Their contract already... [00:26:30] Doan Trong: Expired. Kimberly: We cancelled that contract two years ago Doan Trong: Two years already. File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 13 Kimberly: Yes. Doan Trong: Dear audience. Then you may know that the City of [00:26:40] Westminster, under the management of the City Manager, has appointed Mr. Ta Duc Tri in the position that we may refer to under [00:26:50] three names: lobby or liaison or consultant. Perhaps, lobby is illegal. [00:27:00] It is not appropriate with the past of Mr. Tyler Diep, when he served at the position of the state elected official. With a salary that we may say two salaries for one. [00:27:10] It looks like, I know for sure that it looks like he has two pay checks. He made more than ten thousand dollars in two months. After that, he resigned. Back to this matter, [00:27:20] I would like to ask you [doctor] about the appointment of Mr. Tyler Diep, do you know about that, doctor? Kimberly: The appointment, first of all, it is within the capacity of the City Manager. [00:27:30] Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: We are the council members. The City Manager does not have to ask us. And there is no need to vote... Doan Trong: Yeah [00:27:40] Kimberly: ... or approve for the appointment. This is the capacity of the City Manager. Doan Trong: Is there any time that the people from the city, like Mr. Tran Thai Van talked to you [doctor], or put [00:27:50] pressure on you about the appointment of Mr. Tyler Diep, about the salary of Mr. Tyler Diep? Kimberly: Yes, when I [Kimberly] overheard... Doan Trong: Yeah. [00:28:00] Kimberly: ... that Mr. Tyler Diep will be chosen. Then I [Kimberly] was against it. And I [Kimberly] told the City Manager that: "We [00:28:10] do not recommend you, to choose or hire, we should say to hire Mr.... [00:28:20] Doan Trong: Tyler Diep. Kimberly:... Mr. Tyler Diep to this position. I just overheard it. I don't know the truth, and do not know if you want to do that or not. I know that it is your decision, [00:28:30] but I am just voicing my objection. Right. Doan Trong: So, is there anyone in the city who requested you [the council member] to withdraw that objection. [00:28:40] Or how to set up salary, meaning to override the capacity of the City Manager? Kimberly: When [00:28:50] we call Mr., call Mr. City Manager to talk. We don't want him to misunderstand us. We are afraid that he thinks [00:29:00] that we support the hiring. Therefore, we called to talk to the City Manager. We called several times to File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 14 get the City Manager on the line. But our [00:29:10] phone call was intercepted. I don't know how to translate that word but... Doan Trong: Someone interfered. Kimberly: ... the phone was picked up by Mr. [00:29:20] Ta Duc Tri. Doan Trong: Oh. Kimberly: Then he says in front of Mr... Doan Trong: City Manager. Kimberly: No, Mr. City Attorney. Doan Trong: Yeah. [00:29:30] Kimberly: Then he asked why — he asked me why I kept calling the City Manager. Then I told him that: [00:29:40] "Mr. Ta Duc Tri. I called because I wanted to talk to him, so that he would not misunderstand, not assume that we want, [00:29:50] or we are okay for him to hire Mr. Tyler Diep. We would like to voice our objection. Then Mr. Ta Duc Tri [00:30:00] said that: "this is the job of the City Manager and you should not be involved in it", and at that time, I know that it is true, [00:30:10], that the hiring will happen. At the beginning, I just overheard it, overheard. Then I told him that is [00:30:20] my right, my right to voice my opinion, and the City Manager has the right to hire or not to hire him. Doan Trong: So [00:30:30] as a Mayor, does he have the right to tell you [doctor] what not to do, to call or not to call the employees of the city? Kimberly: No. No. Doan Trong: No? So, why you [doctor] [00:30:40] Kimberly: That's my right. That's my right to call. But I know why he blocked that phone call, because he did not want me to discuss with [00:30:50] the City Manager. In fact, I did not discuss with the City Manager. I just voiced my objection. That's my right. Doan Trong: You [00:31:00] are following us on a special interview with Dr. Kimberly, council member of the city and we will be back momentarily. [00:31:10] [00:31:20] [music] Doan Trong: You are following us on community reports. Today is when [00:31:30] we realize our democracy, we open with candidates and voters. And we hope in the future, all [00:31:40] other cities and candidates will have a chance to follow our talk show today. We create an open atmosphere to work with each other. The purpose is not [00:31:50] to make the situation bad. This event starts a new step for [00:32:00] everyone to understand the roles of people who represent our citizens, the rights of our citizens, or to ask questions to the people who represent them? File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 15 So, back to the matter that you [00:32:10] [doctor]... I would like to come back to the matter that you had mentioned. I think you [doctor] represent a precinct in which many voters have trusted you [doctor] and when you [doctor] [00:32:20] see that money from the city was used to pay for work that you are not pleased with, you have the right to talk to the City Manager. Then why Mayor Ta Duc Tri, what was the reason for him to interfere [00:32:30] in this matter? Kimberly: Because this person is a friend, and that person is his "brother", therefore, he wanted to hire this person and he [00:32:40] wanted to do a favor for this person, to hire this person. Right. Doan Trong: Oh, meaning that Mr. Ta Duc Tri, as the Mayor, has let you, the council member know that this person is [00:32:50] his "brother". "This person is close to me." Therefore, I would like to hire this person, and that you, the council member should not interfere, meaning that you must not interfere in this matter. Kimberly: Yes, [00:33:00] at that point, he did not say so, but I know that because in the past, he had said, and someone had said that, and many people had [00:33:10] witnessed what he had said before that "this is my `brother' and I am willing to take a bullet for him". Doan Trong: Oh, I see. [00:33:20] But did he ever mention the salary of this person, how would he be paid? Kimberly: Whose salary we are talking about? [00:33:30] Doan Trong: Mr. Tyler Diep's salary when hired Kimberly: Right. Doan Trong: Before I ask you this, please let me ask you something else. When you [doctor] knew that [00:33:40] the City Manager was going to hire Mr. Tyler Diep for this position, did you [doctor] know how much the city would pay Mr. Tyler Diep? Kimberly: Actually I [Kimberly] didn't know that [00:33:50] the city would hire this City Manager, sorry, not the City Manager, but the city would hire Mr. Tyler Diep. First of all, I [Kimberly] [00:34:00] ... the meeting has not happened yet. Also, at that time, we were driving for 15 hours to Colorado. I [Kimberly] still remember [00:34:10] at that time, I received a phone call, I [Kimberly] got a phone call from the City Attorney [00:34:20] asking us, he was telling us that now, the Mayor would like to allow the City Manager to hire... [00:34:30] at this time, they just discussed with each other, about hiring the City Manager at [00:34:40] $9000. Doan Trong: Hire Mr. Tyler Diep Kimberly: Mr. Tyler Diep. Right. Doan Trong: Mr. City Manager. Kimberly: Wants the City Manager to hire Mr. Tyler Diep at $9000. Then, File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 IN [00:34:50] Doan Trong: One month? Kimberly: One month. The City Attorney told me that... he said because I [Kimberly] am experienced in business, and [00:35:00] trade, then he asked me, [Kimberly] what do I [Kimberly] think about the price? Then I burst out laughing and I said [00:35:10] first of all, I would never hire a City Manager to do this job in my business, so, how should I know. "But I recommend [00:35:20] that... "I am just telling you what I am thinking [00:35:30]. But what you should do is to find an equivalent position that you have hired [00:35:40] in the past for the city, then you can refer to that profile. You can review that profile and see how much you paid for that person". Then, a few hours later, [00:35:50] the City Attorney called me [Kimberly] saying that now, I can see that the equivalent price [00:36:00] that's the lobbyist position, the price is $5000 a month. Doan Trong: Right Kimberly: Right. And then, [00:36:10] you know that finally, Mr. Tyler Diep was hired. It is public information. Doan Trong: Right. Kimberly: He was hired at $7000. [00:36:20] When the City Attorney said it was $5000, Mayor Ta Duc Tri was very upset. He said, no way [00:36:30], there is no way to hire my "young brother" for $5000, that he should be hired at $9000. But it is okay, now we can drop to $7000. [00:36:40] Then he said, it is okay, and he dropped the price to $7000. Doan Trong: Oh, wow. However -- Kimberly: It is him who negotiated the price on behalf [00:36:50] of Tyler Diep. Doan Trong: Did Mr. Tran Thai Van know about this, doctor? Kimberly: I [Kimberly] would not know what information they are sharing with each other. Doan Trong: But Mr. Tran Thai Van did not lobby for Mr. [00:37:00] Tyler Diep? Kimberly: No. He did not officially lobby. Because I [Kimberly] did not know if the city was hiring. They know the way. [00:37:10] Tyler Diep wanted to go into the city office by the front door, but he did not pass using the City Manager. [00:37:20] You know that the council members have to vote, and I [Kimberly] already have the decisive vote, against it. Then they knew that they had to go through the back door to the city office, using the position as a consultant. The City Manager then [00:37:40] has the capacity to appoint, then they followed that way to send Mr. Tyler Diep in. When he was in, there was still a negotiation [00:37:50] about his salary. I [Kimberly] think that the matter is unacceptable. This is because Mr. Ta Duc Tri is a representative [00:38:00] of the city, he always has to be on the side of the city. He should not be on the side of his File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 17 friend. Yes, [00:38:10] or on the side of his family, we should not do that. That's not acceptable. Doan Trong: Dear audience, today, we have a special opportunity to [00:38:20] interview a council member of the City of Westminster. First, it is very sad if all the information that doctor Kimberly mentioned today [00:38:30] is true. Personally, I always respect, and I personally think that as a council member [00:38:40] also a doctor, she has a history with this city, her words would not be wrong. But anything can happen. And if we don't think these actions [00:38:50] were wrong, this is a shame for our city. We trust Mr. Ta Duc Tri whole-heartedly, and he has his [00:39:00] own personal relationship, he put pressure on Mrs. Sherry Johnson while she was the City Manager, to choose a person that, with this position, [00:39:10] can bring about benefits for himself, bringing more people on his side. And he has had some questionable actions in this city. He brought some artist from [00:39:20] Vietnam here and took away our Yellow Flag with Three Red Stripes. We are showing here a picture of him sitting with Mr. Ta Duc Tien — Mr. Chu Tat Tien, with this Yellow Flag. But when he gave some certificate to this woman, [00:39:30] we did not see that Yellow Flag. But that is his business, I don't want to mention it today. On this show, Madame Kimberly told us today, perhaps, Mr. Ta Duc Tri needs to answer to everyone about all [00:39:40] the related issues to his position as the Mayor. If everything we said here is the truth, it is shameful for the Vietnamese, living in the city named as the [00:39:50] Capital City for the refugees. And we would like to listen to what he has to say, because this is one in many things that the citizens of the City of Westminster, the Vietnamese living in the United States would like to know about this person [00:40:00] and we can say if all this is true, this is a shame for our Vietnamese community. Thank you [doctor] for coming and being on [00:40:10] our program, of course, we will invite you... Today, about some matters that you shared with us about the city. We don't have much time today. We hope that [00:40:20] next Sunday, on our program, you will help us. So that everyone can come together, cooperate with each other after all that has happened in the past. [00:40:30] Kimberly: Yes. Doan Trong: Thank you so much for following our program today, and we are looking forward to seeing you next week. [00:40:40] File name: Community Report - Kimberly Ho 07082021 IN [00:00:00] [music] Doan Trong: Xin du°ac gtA lai chao than ai den quy vi cung vai chung toi [00:00:10] qua Phong sur Cong dong hom nay. Hom nay thi chung to lai co ca hoi gap ga ba bac si nghi vien cua thanh ph -0 Westminster. Kinh thura quy vi, do la ba Kimberly Ho. [00:00:20] Xin durac gai lai chao than ai den bac si cung vai chung toi hom nay. Kimberly Ho: Da, Kimberly An kinh chao quy khan thinh gia. Doan Trong: Thera bac si, sa di, chung toi muon bac si co ca hoi chia se [00:00:30] vai khan thinh, dac biet la tat ca nhCrng cu, dan cua thanh pho Westminster, sau khi ho xem mot cai quyet Binh cua bac si vai tat ca nhCrng cai sur viec ma trong thai gian vLra qua [00:00:40] de cap den rat nhieu, do la van de twang dai Tai Chiem Co Thanh Quang Tri. Bay gia thi moi chuyen on thoa. Nhurng von dau, cai khan thinh gia cua chung toi ho lai muon biet them mot vai sur viec [00:00:50] a trong thanh pho Westminster. Ma toi nghi rang bac si vai mot cai kinh nghiem, vai mot nhcrng sur viec gan lien vai thanh ph -0 Westminster, thi chac le, co ca hoi chis se vai tat ca nhCrng ctx tri [00:01:00] cua bac si, cho nhCrng ngurai ma ho da gan lien vai bac si trong cai thai gian dai. Nhu° vay la bac si a thanh ph -0 Westminter bao lau roi bac si ha? Kimberly: Da, Kimberly a thanh pho [00:01:10] a on and off cai la to 2009 a uhm. Doan Trong: Da, nhurng ma bac nhurng ma bac si la nghi vien a, la bat dau bay gia toi thay cung qua mot nhiem ky roi. [00:01:20] RN bay gia la nhiem ky thtx nhi, ma trurac do thi bac si cung la mot trong nhCrng ngurai Gly vien cua goi la Planning Commission a phai khong bac si? Kimberly: Da dung vay. [00:01:30] Doan Trong: Da, nhu° vay la cai chieu dai cua tat ca nhCrng gi gan lien vai thanh pho Westminter vai bac si rat la lau roi. Bac si, them bac si, co mot vai dieu chac hom nay bac si cho chis se vai chung toi vai kha nang hie- u biet cua bac si. [00:01:40] Tai trurac day, chung toi co de cap den thanh pho Wesminster, mot thanh pho co the not la it nhieu gi chung to cung not rang day la the do cua ngurai ti nan. Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: Ma rat nhieu nghi vien [00:01:50] ngurai My goc Viet cua chung ta, neu not khong ay thi la thanh pho nay hinh nhu° la ngurai Viet chung to co mot cai dong gop nhieu. Kimberly: Da Doan Trong: Ma cai trach nhiem, [00:02:00] mot trong nhCrng cai chLxc vu ngurai to de cap ngay ca to OC Register cung giong to OC Voice co not den mot cai van de, quy vi co mot cai thai ky bo nhiem mot nhan vat co ten la Chu Thai phai khong bac Ev [00:02:10] Ong Chu Thai hay la Thai Chu bac si? Kimberly: Ong a Chu Thai. File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 Doan Trong: Chu Thai. The tai sao lai clan den ma thanh ph 6- het tat ca moi ngurai lai bo nhiem them mot ngurai goi la [00:02:20] a quan tri vien cung la ngurai My goc Viet nCra thura bac s -I? Kimberly: Da thura-thura anh a Kimberly muon a dinh chanh la thanh pho a [00:02:30] ma khong co bo nhiem. Doan Trong: China bo nhiem. Kimberly: A, chu°a bo nhiem. Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: A ong ta, Chu Thai ong apply thi chung toi a a, den luc do la tuyen [00:02:40] a ngurai tong quan tri cho thanh pho. Ma ngurai tong quan tri mai cho thanh pho, tai vi cai ngurai tong quan tri cu, ho da rai a khoi [00:02:50] thanh pho dau la thang-thang hai nam 2020. Doan Trong: Da. Oa nhu° vay la tuy nhien cai chLxc vu do trong va thanh ph 6- open. [00:03:00] Kimberly: Da dung roi. Doan Trong: Va ong Chu Thai la ngurai nop dan- Kimberly: Da vang. Doan Trong: -de ma lam cai chLxc vu do. Kimberly: Nhu°ng ma khong durac chuan thuan. Doan Trong: Khong durac chap thuan. Kimberly: Tai vi khi sau khi- Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: -ong to apply roi chung toi rot cuoc lai khong muran ong. [00:03:10] Da, khong muran ong. Doan Trong: Nhu°ng ma co mot cai hom nay toi nhan durac, sa di toi mai bac Si, co rat nhieu khan thinh gia hoi rang cai thanh pho cua chung to gan lien vai khong biet la bao nhieu ngurai [00:03:20] ma china hoi nao gia nghe den ong Chu Thai het. Thi tu° nhien dung mot cai sao lai co van de ong Chu Thai va co mot vai du° luan thi not rang ong do la ngurai gan gui [00:03:30] va ong Tran The Van la mot trong nhCrng ngurai hurang clan giup W de lam sao de ong do co the chit vu tong quan tri vien. Cai lieu do thi nhu° the nao thura bac si? Kimberly: A da thura thi, luc do [00:03:40] luc ma ong Chu Thai apply do, thi chung toi cung khong biet ong tCr dau den. Doan Trong: Da. File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 Kimberly: Tai vi chung toi chi la, la thanh ph -0 a tuyen [00:03:50] khap nai tren ca nurac My. Thanh ra, chung toi khong biet nhurng ma roi sau nay thi co nghe a la do la ngurai cua ong Tran Thai Van dura den. Da. [00:04:00] Doan Trong: O wow. Wra roi bac si vCra not la ngurai ong Tran The Van dura den. The tai sao lai co cai chCr ngurai cua ong Tran The Van dura den thura bac SP Kimberly: Da thi durac biet la ong Tran The Van da [00:04:10] giai thieu ong nay den. Doan Trong: Okay. Kimberly: Da va dura ong tai thi Kimberly durac biet nhu° vay. Doan Trong: O, nhu° vay la durac giai thieu den. Vang thi chac le ong la mot trong nhCrng vi luat sur, mot trong nhLrng ngurai dai digin [00:04:20] cho di hoc 68 a tai Sacramento cho thanh pho chung to thi ong thay nhan vat nao hCru hieu ma durac thi chac le la ong giai thieu den. Nhurng ma sau cung thi hinh nhu° ong Chu Thai [00:04:20] khong co durgc dam nhiem chit vu do phai khong bac si? Kimberly: Da khong. Doan Trong: Da. Vai cai sur kien no thi no di den mot cai ket qua nghia la can phai co ba ngurai. [00:04:40] Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: Nhurng ma chi co hai ngurai thoi bac si ha? Kimberly: Da dung vay. Doan Trong: The sau khi ma trong thai ky trong cai chit vu no bo trong thi ngurai nao la ngurai dam nhiem chit vu tong quan tri do thura bac si? [00:04:50] Kimberly: Da thura trong cai thai ky ma trong thi la co ban Sherry Johnson. Doan Trong: Ba Sherry Johnson. I see. Kimberly: Sherry Johnson. Doan Trong: The thi ba tam thai la term cua ba Ia lam bao Iau [00:05:00] vay bac Si? Kimberly: Da, chung toi, hinh nhu° thanh ph -0 contract ba la tCr thang hai cho den thang tam thi phai. Doan Trong: Da hai cho den thang tam [00:05:10]. Da. Kimberly: TCP thang hai cho den thang a tCr thang hai den thang hai nam 2021. And, roi sau do thi co extend den 2028 [00:05:20] ha. Doan Trong: Da File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 Kimberly: Thang tam thi phai. Da. Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: Kimberly khong nh& ro. Doan Trong: Vi biet tinh cach la mot nghi vien, cung la mot pho Thi Trurang thi bac si co nhCrng cai sur lien he nhu° the nao [00:05:30] v&i ba Sherry Johnson do thura bac si? Kimberly: Da, ba Sherry Johnson ba lam viec cho thanh pho. A, ba la mot giam doc ve a ve Tai Chanh va finance [00:05:40] director of finance va ba to da lam cho thanh pho dau den gan han dLr&i [00:05:50] 30 nam. Doan Trong: O qua dD vay sao. The thi trong cai thai gian ba lam, bac si cho toi di sau chat xiu. Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: The trong thai gian ba lam tam cai chLxc vu Tong quan tri vien co dieu gi [00:06:00] lam cho quy vi khong hai long hay la quy vi thay cai nang lurc cua ba do khong du de dam nhiem cai chLk vu Tong quan tri khong thura bac si? Kimberly: Da khong a Kimberly co khuyen khich ba a [00:06:10] apply cho cai mot cai ten co -ng viec nay ma permanent. Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: Thi ba cung apply cho tai khi ma ma ra Ian dau titin a. [00:06:20] Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: Da, thi ba co apply. Doan Trong: A. Kimberly: Nhu°ng ma ba khong durac chon, ong Chu Thai lai durac chon cho cho cai luc dau titin. Doan Trong: Cai dat dau titin. Kimberly: Sau do thi ong Chu Thai lai khong durac [00:06:30] a uhm vi nhieu cai ly do ma Kimberly khong co titin de neu ra hom nay. Doan Trong: Da da da. Kimberly: Tren man hinh do thi Kimberly An a minh cung phai [00:06:40] to nhi v&i ngurai do mot chat xiu. Doan Trong: Da khong neu la ong khong co thai gia chung toi khong di vao van de- M. edo. File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 4 Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: Chung toi chi biet la cai titin trinh tuyen chon nhu° vay la ba Sherry Johnson [00:06:50] da nap dan mot Ian va khong durac chon Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: Va sau do thi cai co mot vai ly do ma hoi long khong co chinh thLk chon ong Chu Thai. Thi la ba lai la cai ngurai van dam nhiem [00:07:00] cac chLk vu Tong quan tri do? Kimberly: Da dung vay. Doan Trong: O, the luc do thi tai sao ma khi cai ngurai do di thi khong co chon ba Sherry Johnson? Kimberly: Da thura thi a nay cau hoi cung rat la hay [00:07:10] day thura anh. La tai cung china bao gia a ai hoi den a nhurng ma khi ma anh da hoi roi thi Kimberly cu -ng co cai trach nhiem [00:07:20] la a not ra su° that thoi. Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: Noi len su° that. Thi a thu°a anh la ba khong co muon, ba khong co muon apply [00:07:30] Ian fti nhi la vi ba cam thay la ba a trong luc ma ba to cai Ian dau titin ba apply cho den cai Ian fti nhi do, thi trong cai giai loan [00:07:40] do hinh nhu° la mot hai thang gi do - Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: AN ba da cam thay bi ap lu'c rat la nhieu. Doan Trong: Wow. Kimberly: Da. Bai [00:07:50] a khong biet la anh cung muon minh not ra het hay sao. Doan Trong: Thi toi hom nay thi toi hoi bac si not gi thi toi nghe do, ma toi thay cai gi ma toi china hieu thi toi hoi bac si, the thoi. [00:08:00] Kimberly: Khi ba ba bi ap lurc tCr ong Thi trurang rat la nhieu. Ma ong ba cam thay la ba co nhieu cai ba khong the nao lam durac. A ma [00:08:10] khi ba bi ap lu°c nhu° vay ba cung sa ba cung to cho cai cong-- cai position cua ba, cai co -ng viec cua ba. Doan Trong: Vang. Kimberly: Ba thanh ra sau do thi ba khong apply [00:08:20] chang nhcrng ba khong apply ma ba con a di ve huru, ve huru luon. Da. File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 Doan Trong: The thi thu°a thu°a bac si, chung toi hai phan van de bac si khi bac si dura ra mot cai cai cau noi [00:08:30] rang la ba Sherry Johnson trong luc ba dam nhiem chCrc vu Tong Quan tri vien thi ba bi ap lurc cua ong Thi Trurang Ta OLk Tri. Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: Cai ap lu°c do ap lu°c nhu° the nao [00:08:40] thu°a bac si? Kimberly: A da thi ba, vi du nhu° la a mot cai position ve economic development. [00:08:50] Cai nay thi thura quy vi thi qua cai public record act thi quy vi nhcrng cai nay la public information chLx khong co cai gi ma -- Doan Trong: Ung khai ma. [00:09:00] Kimberly: Da thanh ra minh cung khong giau lam gi. Thum quy vi, thi ba noi la ba b pressure la phai mLr&n mot ngurai nao do [00:09:10] cho cai position ve economic development ma ba cam thay la ba khong co a muon va mur6n cai ngurai do, la vi nhieu [00:09:20] cai ly do ma va cam thay ngurai da khong co qualify. Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: The thi thu°a bac si, khi bac si noi nhu° vay thi dura vao dau de bac si [00:09:30] biet rang la ba Sheri Jonhson bi cai ap lurc bai ong thi trurang Ta Dk TO Kimberly: Da, chinh ba da noi v&i Kimberly. Doan Trong: O, chinh ba noi ve bac si? Kimberly: Chinh ba da noi. Doan Trong: O wow. The v&i tu° cach la mot nghi vien, [00:09:40] khi bac si da nghe du°ac la bac si biet du°ac mot cai ngu°ai lam viec cho thanh ph -0 cua bac Si da chiu ap lurc de bo nhiem mot ngurai nao do theo lai yeu cau [00:09:50] coa mot ong Thi Trurang. The tai sao bac si khong co noi ra cho trong cac buoi hop hoac la bac si noi thang v6i ong Ta Oft Tri? You should not do that. Because lam nhu° vay thi nhan vien la no-- [00:10:00] ho co-- ho mat di mot cai ngurai trung thanh, mot ngurai gioi do nang lurc de lam viec cho minh thi tai sao bac si khong noi ra? Kimberly: Da thura, thi chinh Kimberly cung co noi. Doan Trong: Co noi, yeah. [00:10:10] Kimberly: Va sau khi ma chuyen do Ay ra, thi ba Sherry Johnson da apply de ve huru. Doan Trong: O, yeah, yeah. Kimberly: Ba noi ba khong muon 6 lai nCra. File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Da. [00:10:20] Doan Trong: Nhurng ma durai cai hieu biet va kinh nghiem cua bac si thi la-- A, chac la chung toi khong con nhieu thi gia va chung toi- Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: -se co cau hoi bac si nhieu. Quy vi Bang cung vai chung toi qua mot cai phong sur cong long [00:10:30] va chung toi se tra lai vai quy vi trong giay lat. [music] [00:10:40] [music] Doan Trong: Quy vi Bang cung vai chung toi qua mot cai churang trinh [00:10:50] hom nay not ve thanh pho Westminster, mot cai cong long ma chung to hanh digin. flo la-- co the not la thu do cua ngurai ti nan cua chung ta. The tra lai van de- cua [00:11:00] ba Sherry Johnson, thura bac STI. Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: The tat ca nhCrng nghi vien va thi trurang co cai quyen han de- dung cai quyen lurc [00:11:10] ca nhan cua minh, de lam ap lurc mot ngurai nao do a chit vu tong quan tri, de bo nhiem mot cai ngurai nao do theo y minh. Thi cai do co phai la cai viec lam cua quy vi hay khong? [00:11:20] Hay la cai do goi la [unintelligible 00:11:22] thu°a bac si? Kimberly: Da, khong, khong. Lam nghi vien hoac la thi tru°ang khong gay-- khong du°ac gay ap lu°c. Doan Trong: Khong du°ac gay [00:11:30] ap lurc. Kimberly: Da. Cai do la quyen cua ngurai tong quan tri. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Da, ho thay ai qualified thi ho muran. Doan Trong: Yeah. Xin hoi that bac si hoi nao gia co khi nao bac si bo nhiem [00:11:40] ai ma bac si nghi rang bac si dung ap ILPc cua bac si vai tu° cach la pho thi trurang, cung giong nhu° nghi vien de- ngurai do durac bo nhiem khong? Kimberly: Da khong. Minh khong nen dung ap lu°c va chu°a bao gia [00:11:50] Kimberly recommend de- a-- goi la cho ba-- cho bat mi ai bo nhiem. Doan Trong: Vang. Kimberly: Da, va cai do cung rat la bat hap phap. File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 Doan Trong: Yeah. Vang, kinh thura quy vi, [00:12:00] nhu° quy vi da biet thanh ph -0 Westminster la mot trong nhCrng thanh pho gan day co nhieu cai su° kien lien tuc ma chung to ban cai den. Tuy nhien, cung da den luc chung to co durac quyen nghe, [00:12:10] durac quyen hieu biet. Va chung to co quyen chat van vai tat ca nhCrng ngurai hien nay Bang dam nhiem cai chLk vu ma mang lai cai danh du, cho nhCrng ngurai My goc Viet cua chung ta. [00:12:20] Vi du tot, du xau, du hay, du da, thanh ph -0 do cung la mot trong nhCrng thanh ph -0 ma durac tat ca moi ngurai Viet tren the giai biet do la thu do cua ngurai ti nan chung ta, [00:12:30] nai dong gop rat nhieu cua nhCrng ngurai Viet chung ta. Bai the, khi mot vi tri trurang ngurai My goc Viet ma chung to dung cai ap ILFc, hoac la chung to gi-- de mat di cai goi la [00:12:40] mot cai ngurai lam viec rat la hCru dung. Vi ba-- chung toi du ac biet ba Sherry Johnson la mot trong nhCrng ngurai da lam viec vai thanh ph -0 Westminster trong cai thai gian, co the not gan ba thap nien [00:12:50] vai mot trong nhCrng cai su° viec ma china bao gia ba bi mot cai tat hay la cai xau gi, mot cai note a trong ho sa cua ba. Va rut cuoc lai, la vi nhCrng cai ap ILPc do ma ba phai ra di. Thi cai dieu do chung to thay [00:13:00] ro rang la da den luc thanh pho chung to can phai khai ma va can phai lam lai tat ca nhCrng gi cho no hap vai cai tinh than dan chu. Cung vi tinh than do ma chung to bo nurac ra di. [00:13:10] Bay gia, chung to lai tra lai. Chung to luon luon not nhCrng ngurai cong san la nhCrng ngurai ap Nk de nen. Ma bay gia, thi chung to lai di vao con durang do thi khong co mot cai li do gi. Va chung toi hi vong qua cai churang trinh nay, [00:13:20] chung toi mai ong Ta Dk Tri co the co mot cai tieng not ro rang cho tat ca nhCrng ngurai dan cua chung toi nghe. Tat ca nhCrng gi lien quan den van de ma co the not lien quan den vai ba -- [00:13:30] vu ba Sherry Johnson. flo la mot vai trong nhCrng cai van de ma chung toi hom nay cung mu -on not den. A, ke den la mot trong nhCrng chit-- luc nay thi bac si cho phep chung toi de cap den van de ma [00:13:40] manager thanh ph -0 durac khong bac si? Kimberly: Da durac. Da. Doan Trong: Roi, the thi sau nay chung toi cung durac biet rang la thanh pho da bo nhiem-- a, co the not [00:13:50] dong tinh co danh sach cua ong Taylor Diep, khong phai la bo nhiem, nhung ma, thanh pho cu -ng co xet ong Taylor Diep Lyng cu° vao cai chit goi la quan tri vien cua thanh ph -0 sau khi [00:14:00] cai chit vu do con trong rong, phai khong thura bac si? Kimberly: Da thura dung vay. A, cai Ian fti nhi chung toi ma ra de a-- co them ngurai, um, tuyen them ngurai, tuyen ngurai a, [00:14:10] cho cai chit tong quan tri thi ong Taylor Diep co apply cho cai Ian fti nhi. Doan Trong: Yeah. The thi Ian nay bac si co chiu ap ILPc cua ai khong? [00:14:20] Kimberly: Da thi ap ILPc rat la cao va rat la nhieu. Chinh Kimberly cung M nhan durac nhieu, cai la nhieu ngurai den de lobby. Doan Trong: Yeah. File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 Kimberly: A, va [00:14:30] khi ma Kimberly khong-khong chon, khong co dung la phieu cua minh de chon ong Taylor Diep thi a, ben [00:14:40] nhCrng ngurai nhur la ong Tri Ta, Tran Thai Van, ong Mai Tri van van, thi ho rat la burc minh. Doan Trong: O. Kimberly: Va ho da -- Doan Trong: The bac si not la bu°c minh, vi sao ma bac si bao ho bu°c minh [00:14:50] v&i bac si? Kimberly: Tai ho muon durgc ong-ong Taylor Diep durgc chon vao. Doan Trong: A. Kimberly: Chon vao de vao thanh pho la tong quan tri. Doan Trong: O, [00:15:00] nhu°ng ma theo sur hieu biet cua chung toi, sa di Hang Cong Hoa quan Cam da khong tin nhiem ong Ta OLk Tri vao cai chit vu tranh ctx. A, dan-dan bieu [00:15:10] lien va tieu bang dia hat a-- trieu hat 72 - Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: -la vi Ii do ong da co nhCrng cai bau ban di ngurgc lai v&i durang loi cua flang Cong Hoa. [00:15:20] Theo sur hieu biet cua toi v&i tu° cach la mot nha bao, thi toi biet nhur vay. Thanh ra cuoi cung thi Gly ban cua flang Cong Hoa tai quan Cam khong co yem tra cho ong. [00:15:30] The quy vi cung la mot trong nhCrng ngurai hieu biet cai do, the tai sao quy vi lai bo nhiem mot cai ngurai ma durac-- khong durac sur tin nhiem cua-- de ctx mot tin nhiem cua flang Cong Hoa a tai quan Cam nay vao [00:15:40] cai chit vu quan tri vien do de lam gi vay thura bac si? Kimberly: Da thura, thi anh not la cho cai chit tong quan tri ha anh? Doan Trong: Da vang. Kimberly: Da, thi [00:15:50] ong Ta Oft Tri la mu -on cho Taylor Diep vao cai chit do. Doan Trong: O. Kimberly: Da, thi chi dan gian nhur vay. Thi ong va Tran Thai Van [00:16:00] theo cai lai, um, lobby cua Tran Thai Van thi ong da -- Doan Trong: I see. Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: The bay gia cai van de nhur the nay thura bac si. Ong Tran Thai Van dau co dinh lien gi thanh ph -0 [00:16:10] Westminster. Ong Tran Thai Van a mot cai dia hat khac. Ong Tran Thai Van la mot nhan vat chinh tri da tang co the not lam viec 6 tai Sacramento v&i [00:16:20] tu° cach la danh bieu tieu bang. Ong co quyen File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 lobby cho tat ca nhCrng ngurai khac, the tai sao ong lai co cai van de dinh dang v&i ong Taylor Diep a trong nay? Nhur vay, la mot cai tinh hinh [00:16:30] thay co ve be phai, be nhom v&i nhau de gay dung mot cai nhom to chit cua minh len lam thong tri thanh ph -0 nay ha, thura sao bac si? Kimberly: Da, thi [00:16:40] chac la trLr&c day Kimberly cung da biet la ho co nhCrng cai moi quan he chung v&i nhau rat la lau nam roi. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: The thi ngu&i nao la ngu&i co the not [00:16:50] lam cho cai chien dich ma de ctx ong Taylor Diep vao cai chit vu quan tri vien, tong quan tri cua thanh vien trong thanh ph -0 nay khong thanh cong? V&i cai la phieu cua ai thura bac si? [00:17:00] Kimberly: A v&i cai la phieu cua Kimberly. Ma cai la phieu cua Kimberly duy nhat la cai ma li do ma ong Taylor Diep khong durac vao- Doan Trong: O, wow. Kimberly: -tong quan tri. Da, [00:17:10] neu ma Kimberly bau la tat nhien minh co cai la phieu quyet dinh thi ong Taylor Diep ngay nay, um, se la tong quan tri cua thanh ph -0 Westminster. [00:17:20] Doan Trong: The bay gia bac si-- Cai nay la rieng cua bac si thoi. Neu bac si chia se thi chung toi nghe. Ma chung toi mu -on nghe bac si not nhur the thoi. The tai sao bac si khong tin nhiem ong Taylor Diep vao chit vu tong quan tri? [00:17:30] Kimberly: Da, thi khi ma ong Tran Thai Van co den. Va mot khi ong Tran Thai Van gap Kimberly a [00:17:40] mot cai event nao do a ngoai thanh pho. Thi ong to mai den hoi Kimberly la tai sao ma co nhCrng cai chuyen ma [00:17:50] khong vui, dao nay khong vui v&i nhau. Ong Ta Oft Tri, ong Nguyen Manh Tri, Taylor Diep v&i Kimberly tai sao khong vui v&i nhau. Thi ong mai not la-- [00:18:00] Thi Kimberly mai tra lai la: "O, tai vi ho muon cho Kimberly bau, um, cho ong Taylor Diep len de lam tong quan tri". [00:18:10] Thi ong Tran Thai Van mai not la "O, thi tai sao khong ba -u? Ong Taylor Diep la ban cua Kimberly ma." Thi tCr do la Kimberly [00:18:20] thay la minh hieu roi. Tat nhien la cai cach ho lam viec nhur vay la minh thay khong dung roi. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Thanh ra minh khong co lien lac tiep [00:18:30] va minh cung khong co not gi nCra. Da. Doan Trong: The thi sau khi bac si quyet dinh khong tin nhiem ong Taylor Diep vao Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: -chCrc vu tong quan tri cua thanh ph -0 File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 10 Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: -thi cai su° than [00:18:40] hCru giCra nhCrng ngurai da tCrng lam viec trong thanh pho doi vai bac si cung giong nhu° ong Tran Thai Van vai bac si, no co khac nhau nhieu khong? Kimberly: NhCrng ngurai lam viec trong thanh ph -0 nhu° ai a? Doan Trong: Nhu° la [00:18:50] ong Ta OLk Tri, nhu° la ong Nguyen Manh Tri - Kimberly: O, da. Doan Trong: -cung vai nhu° ong Tran Thai Van, no co khac khong a, thura bac si? Kimberly: Da, khac hoan town. Doan Trong: Khac la khac sao bac si? [laughs] Kimberly: Khac la-- co the not la [00:19:00] tCr thang gieng, thang hai, tCr luc ma minh khong, um, dung la phieu de muran ong Chu Thai. Cho den sau do, [00:19:10] thi ong-- a hoi nay co not la ve ong Taylor Diep lam cho tong quan tri. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: flo thi a, hai cai event do Ay ra, roi la [00:19:20] ho khong co-- not chung la ho khong co, ho rat la burc minh. Ho not-- *c nhien la burc minh ra mat, minh hieu la -la nhu° vay. Minh cung [00:19:30] khong co-- tai doi vai Kimberly ma lam cai gi dung thi thoi chLx khong care la cai ngurai do la, a, ho khong vui vai minh hay khong. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Tai vi minh lam viec mot cach rat la [00:19:40] professional. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Cai gi dung thi minh lam, cai gi khong dung thi minh ay. Con neu ma not ban ma lai dung nhau thi minh khong phai la ban n0a. Doan Trong: Vi bac si phai co cai luPang tam cua bac s- - Kimberly: Da thi dung. Doan Trong: -doi vai mot [00:19:50] trong nhCrng ngurai nghi vien ma. Quy vi Bang cung vai chung toi theo doi mot cai phong su° dac biet. Va hom nay, quy vi co dieu kien de nghe twang tan lai cua mot nghi vien cua thanh ph -0 Westminster not [00:20:00] ve tat ca nhCrng su° kien lien quan den nhCrng cai chit vu ma dai digin cho ngurai dan cua chung to tai thanh pho Westminster. Va chung toi tra lai vai quy vi trong giay lat. [music] File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 11 Quang Cao: -De tri an khach hang cung nhu [00:20:10] ho tra cho dai dich, chung toi co mot chuang trinh mang ten Tri an cung van niem vui. Quy vi co the mua tat ca cac san ph -am sam cua International Home Shopping va nhan lai full credit vai so - ti e-n otien da tra. -D e- biet them chi tiet, An goi 714-868-6868. Quy vi co the theo doi chuang trinh cua chung toi [00:20:30] phat song truc tiep tren cac he thong sau Nam Cali 57.11, 14.3, San Jose 16.11, [00:20:40] Houston, Texas 27.2, App: SET Group TV. Chuang trinh cung co mat tren tat ca cac thiet bi Android, iOS, [00:20:50] Roku, Amazon, smart phone, iPad va dac biet tren Samsung app. SET Hac Sam mon qua cua thuang de, giup tang cuang de khang [00:21:00] chong dai dich town cau. [00:21:10] [music] Doan Trong: Quy vi Bang cung vai chung toi [00:21:20] qua mot trong buoi not chuyen dac biet vai nghi vien Kemberly Ho. Theo quy vi cung biet, ba bac si nghi vien la mot nguai den Binh cu tai Hoa Ky vao nam 1975. [00:21:30] Gia dinh cua ba thi chac quy vi deu biet. Ba la truang nix cua mot vi dai to phao binh. Ong la mot trong nhCrng nguai sinh hoat cong long rat nhieu. [00:21:40] Hien nay, ong da bi mat. Ah, nhung co the not cai Mi c tinh cua ong luon luon de lai nhCrng-- goi la niem kieu hanh cua nhCrng nguai linh phao binh a trong cai dia hat Quan Cam not rieng [00:21:50] va tren town-- co the not tren town quoc, ngay nhCrng nguai a tai Viet Nam. Va sa di chung toi not nhu vay, thi bay gia chac la quy vi hay biet rang bat ky nguai nao ma neu co [00:22:00] dieu gi lam khong duac la co the chup mu phan quoc, phan dong, la than cong n0a. [laughs] Thanh ra chung toi chf not va quy vi co quyen suy nghi, de tix do quy vi nhan dinh ra tat ca nhCrng cai gi [00:22:10] do la dung do la sai. Nhung bay gia thi thea bac si, gan day thi bac si la mot nguai chu chot trong cai van de dua ra. Va co the not mot nhan vat tieu bieu [00:22:20] trong cai van de chong lai cai uy ban xay dung twang dai cua tai chiem Quang Tri a tai khuon vien Freedom Part phai khong, thea bac si? [00:22:30] Kimberly: Da, da -da thua dung. Doan Trong: The thi co phai vi nhCrng cai su lien he nhu bac si trinh bay trong nhCrng cai qua Mh ve van de bo nhiem ong Chu Thai. Roi van de bo nhiem [00:22:40] ong Tyler Diep. Roi cung van de co the not bac si da biet duac tat ca nhCrng cai ap luc cua nhCrng nguai gay len trong thanh ph -0 nay. Thanh ra bac si mai lam cai dieu do, [00:22:50] hay la vi mot cai gi khac ma bac si lam cai dieu do? Kimberly: Da thea anh -Doan Trong, thea quy vi la hai-- nhCrng cai cong viec do no khac nhau. La mot nguai professional, khi ma lam viec a, [00:23:01] minh phai biet separate giCra cai, nhCrng cai cong viec. Thi cai thix nhat la, nhCrng viec truac day la Chu Thai [00:23:10] hoac la Tyler Diep da qua roi. Thi sau do minh xix den cai-- thi minh dang le Kimberly khong co involve vai cai chuyen twang dai [00:23:20] Tai chiem Co thanh Quang Tri. Nhung ma vi nghe cac cuu quan nhan- Doan Trong: Oh, I see. File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 12 Kimberly: -phan nan kha nhie-u tix thang ba. Thi minh cung nghi rang [00:23:30] ong Ta Oft Tri la ngurai chinh cua cai du an nay. Thi chac la ong to Bang giai quyet hay la se giai quyet den. Nhurng ma den thang tur, thang nam, thang sau van khong thay [00:23:40] va ho len tie -ng con Ian han nixa. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: 06 la li do ma Kimberly phai bur6c vao. Ma trur6c khi minh bur6c vao, thi minh cung co goi, um, ong-- um, [00:23:50] goi la luat su° cua thanh ph -0. Tai vi quy vi bie-t la khi ma mot ngurai, um, giong nhu° chung toi la ngurai dan ctx thi khong the nao co [00:24:00] ba ngurai cua hoi long thanh pho- Doan Trong: Yeah, ma cap lai v&i nhau. Kimberly: -vao-vao trong mot cai, tren cai du, an. Ma thura quy vi, tren cai Gly ban xay dung twang dai [00:24:10] Tai chie-mCo thanh Quang Tri. Thi, a, thang 12 la chung toi chuan thuan 5/5. Tat nhien la nam ngurai da bau phieu, da bo phieu de cho cai du an nay [00:24:20] no hoan thanh. Thi sau do-- Luc do, do la chung toi chf bie-t la ong Ta Oft Tri la ngurai chinh- Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: -cua cai du an M. [00:24:30] Roi sau do, thi to nhien chung toi lai nghe la, thay la ong Tran Thai Van la ngurai chu tich cua cai foundation ma lai con cao han, [00:24:40] nam tren ong Ta Oft Tri. Va ong Ta Oft Tri va ong Nguyen Manh Tri lai nam a trong cai Gly ban Ay dung twang dai. Thanh ra cai do la mot cai conflict of interest. [00:24:50] Nhurng ma Kimberly nghi rang, a, se co nhixng ca quan va se co FBBC ho se nhin va ho se quyet Binh cai chuyen involvement cua nhixng ngurai M. Thi do, thi quy vi cung da nghe [00:25:00] la ho vixa lam trong tai vixa da banh thi cai do thi minh thay conflict ro rang. Tuy nhien, Kimberly khong, se khong de- cap den, chf neu ra nhu° vay cho quy vi thay. [00:25:10] Um, khi ma hai ngurai da nam tren cai Gly ban do roi ma ho khong quyet Binh, khong co nghe cac cuu quan nhan. Thi Kimberly cung dau co, [00:25:20] dau co muon nhay vao dau. Doan Trong: Yeah. Kimberly: Nhu°ng ma vi nhu° Kimberly not M. Cang ngay cang-- a minh nghe cai chuyen lum xum do lai cang to tie -ng. Thanh ra minh phai nhay vao de- [00:25:30] xem la cai gi. Da. Doan Trong: The thura bac si, tra lai bay gia thi khi bac si not qua ve mot vai cai van de den lien quan den van de bo nhiem [00:25:40] tong quan tri. Thi gan day co mot van de- ma toi cung co ca hoi phong van ba Shark Nguyen a ngay studio cua chung toi. Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: Lien quan den van de- ong Tyler Diep, [00:25:50] lai durac thanh pho cua quy vi tra tien cho. -De- di lam mot cai cung viec ma co the not china ro rang. A, le di nhien ong to khong phai la ngurai lobby. [music] Vi cai lobby thi ong khong durac lam, [00:26:00] co the ong la consultant, la leissen. Nhurng v&i chft vi do hoi nao File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 13 gia thanh ph -0 quy vi china co co phai khong thura quy vi? Co khi nao quy vi bo nhiem mot ngurai di len Sacramento hoac la bo nhiem mot ngurai [00:26:10]16n Washington DC de lam cai cong viec do china? Kimberly: Chung toi co mot ngurai goi la, um-- cai ngurai do la ngurai lobbyist. Doan Trong: Lobbyist, yeah. Kimberly: Ma thanh pho, da minh goi la lobbyist - Doan Trong: Yeah. [00:26:20] Kimberly: -chu' khong phai la consultant. Ma cai ngurai do la lobbyist cua thanh ph -0 ma di len Washington DC. Doan Trong: Yeah. Nhurng bay gia ngurai do con lam khong, thura bac SP Kimberly: Da -da khong. Contract cua ho hinh nhu° cung la - [00:26:30] Doan Trong: Het roi. Kimberly: -um, minh huy bo contract do, cancel contract do cach day hai nam. Doan Trong: Hai nam roi. Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: Vang, kinh thura quy vi. Thi chac la quy vi da biet thanh ph -0 [00:26:40] Westminster da theo durai su' dieu hanh cua ngurai tong quan tri. Va da bo nhiem ong Ta flu'c Tri vao mot cai chu'c vu ma chung toi [00:26:50] co the not den ba cai chCr tat ca, lobby hoac la leissen hoac la consultant. Ma chac cai lobby thi no lai vi hien. [00:27:00] No khong dung vai tat ca nhCrng gi ma qua khu' cua ong Tyler Diep M gan bo a chit vu danh bieu tieu bang. Vai mot cai so tien luPang ma co the not rang hai trong-- [00:27:10] hinh nhu° la toi biet ro rang la hinh nhu° ong co durac hai cai check. Hai thang cung len tai cung khoang murai may ngan va sau do ong tu' chit. The cai vu-- ngay bay gia thi tra lai cai van de nay, [00:27:20] thi tui mu -on hoi bac si. Cai vu bo nhiem ong Tyler Diep den, bac si co biet khong bac si? Kimberly: Cai viec bo nhiem do, thi thu' nhat la cai do la quyen cua ong tong quan tri. [00:27:30] Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: Thanh ra chung toi la nghi vien, a, no khong-- ho khong can phai, ong tong quan tri khong can phai hoi. A, hoac la phai durac la phieu- Doan Trong: Yeah. [00:27:40] Kimberly: -chuan thuan de bo nhiem. Cai do la quyen cua ong tong quan tri. File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 14 Doan Trong: The co luc nao nhCrng ngu&i trong thanh ph 6- cu -ng giong nhu° ong Tran Thai Van co not chuyen v&i bac si, hoac la lam [00:27:50] ap lurc v&i bac si ve cai viec bo nhiem ong Tyler Diep qua van de luPang titin cua ong Tyler Diep khong, thura bac si? Kimberly: Da, thura thi khi ma Kimberly co nghe thoang M. Doan Trong: Yeah. [00:28:00] Kimberly: La ong Tyler Diep se duac bo nhiem. A, thi Kimberly co ch -Ong lai. Va Kimberly co not v&i ong tong quan tri la: "Chung toi [00:28:10] khong co recommend ong, thi chong toi khong co recommend ong, bo nhiem ong-- hoac la mLr&n. Ma phai not la mLr&n ong-ong- [00:28:20] Doan Trong: Tyler Diep. Kimberly: -Tyler Diep vao cai chit nay. Toi chi nghe thoang nhu° vay thoi. Toi khong co biet su° that la gi, khong biet la ong co that su° muon lam vay khong. Toi biet la quyen cua ong, [00:28:30] nhurng ma toi chi len tieng de phan Mi." Da. Doan Trong: The thi nhCrng ngurai, co nhCrng ngurai nao a trong thanh ph 6- yeu cau nghi vien rut lui cai lai phan doi M. [00:28:40] Hoac la set up luPang titin nhu° the nao, nghia la murgn cai Ian danh cua chit vu cua ong tong quan tri hay khong, thura bac si? Kimberly: Da, thi a, [00:28:50] khi ma chong toi goi ong, a, goi ong tong quan tri de not chuyen. Thi chong toi cung khong muon cho ong hieu lam. La sa ong nghi rang [00:29:00], a, chong toi ung ho. Thanh ra chong toi mai goi lien tuc de- tim ong tong quan tri. Thi khi ma chong toi, a, [00:29:10] cu phone cua chong toi bi intercept. TLP nhien la bi, a, minh khong biet intercept dich nhu° the nao. Nhurng ma - Doan Trong: Ngu &i to can thiep vao. Kimberly: -da duac boc len bai ong [00:29:20] Ta Oft Tri. Doan Trong: O. Kimberly: Thi ong to not trLr&c mat ong, a - Doan Trong: Tong quan tri. Kimberly: -khong, ong, a luat su° thanh ph -0. Doan Trong: Yeah. [00:29:30] Kimberly: Thi ong to not la tai sao-- ong to dat cau hoi v&i minh la tai sao minh lai lien tuc goi ong, um, tong quan tri. Thi minh co not la: [00:29:40] "Da, thura ong Ta Oft Tri. Toi goi la vi toi mu -on not chuyen v&i ong de cho ong khong hieu lam, khong co assume la chong toi mu -on, [00:29:50] a, hay la chong toi okay de cho ong mur6n ngurai Tyler Diep. Ma chong toi muon len tie -ng phan doi v&i ong." Thi ong Ta Oft Tri [00:30:00] not rang day la quyen cua ong tong quan tri thi co khong nen File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 15 dinh liu vao, thi luc do thi nghi la chac la that roi [00:30:10], la se mu°an. Tai vi luc dau la Minh chi nghe loang thoang thoi, nghe thoang thoi. Da roi khi ma Minh not la cai do la [00:30:20] quyen cua Minh, Minh len tie-ng la quyen cua Minh, con Minh biet la ong to muon muran hay khong do la quyen cua ong tong quan tri. Doan Trong: The thi [00:30:30] a chive vu thi trurang co quyen dieu khie-n bac sq khong du°ac lam, khong du°ac goi digin thoai den vai nhan vien trong thanh pho hay khong? Kimberly: Da khong. Da khong. Doan Trong: Khong ha? The tai sao lai bac sy-- [00:30:40] Kimberly: Cai do la quyen cua Minh. Minh muon goi la quyen cua Minh. Nhu°ng Minh bie-t tai sao ong block cai cu phone do la vi ong khong muon Minh ban ra vai ong [00:30:50] tong quan tri. That su° la Minh khong co ban vai ong tong quan tri. Minh chi len tie-ng va de- Minh phan ON ma thoi. Cai do la quyen cua Minh. Doan Trong: Quy vi [00:31:00] Bang cung vai chung toi qua con mot cai cuoc phong van dac biet vai ba bac sq Kimberly hoi nghi vien cua thanh pho va chung toi se tra lai vai quy vi trong choc lat. [00:31:10] [00:31:20] [music] Doan Trong: Quy vi Bang cung vai chung toi qua phong sur cong long va hom nay thi chac le mot trong [00:31:30] nhCrng thai diem ma chung to thurc thi durac cai quyen dan chu cai ma giCra tat ca nhCrng vi ivng civ vien va tat ca nhCrng civ tri. Va chung toi by vong trong twang lai tat ca cac [00:31:40] thanh ph -0 khac, tat ca ivng civ vien khac cung co dieu kien theo doi cai buoi not chuyen hom nay de- chung to tao nen mot cai khong khi cai ma va de- lam viec vai nhau. Chia khong phai co the- [00:31:50] he[00:31:50] not day la chung to not len nhCrng cai dieu gi ma co the goi chung toi goi la no lam cho tinh hinh khong tot. Va day la mot su° kien khai dau cho mot burac di mai de- cho tat ca [00:32:00] moi ngurai hie-u rang cai vai tro cua mot ngurai trong cai van de- dai dich cho ngurai dan nhu° the nao va ngurai dan du°ac quyen nhu° the nao de- hoi nhCrng vi dai digin cua ho? Thera bac sy vCra roi thi [00:32:10] cho bac sy cho toi tra lai cai sur kien ma bac sy not vCra roi. Toi nghi la bac sq cung la mot dai digin cua mot dia hat ma trong do rat nhie-u civ tri da tin nhiem bac sq va khi bac sq [00:32:20] thay cai dong titin cua thanh ph -0, bo lam mot cai cong viec bac sq khong vCra long va bac sq thi co quyen trao doi vai ong tong quan tri. The tai sao thi trurang Ta Oft Tri vi cai ly do gi ma lai can thiep [00:32:30] vao van de do? Kimberly: Vi do la ngurai ban va vi ra ngurai do la ong goi la ngurai em, thanh ra ong muon muran ngurai nay ma ong [00:32:40] muon lam favor de- muran ngurai nay. Da. Doan Trong: O tat nhien la dieu do co nghia rang ong Ta Oft Tri da cho, vai tu° each la thi trurang, da cho ba nghi vien bie-t rang ngurai nay la [00:32:50] ngurai em cua toi. Ngurai nay la mot trong nhCrng ngurai than vai toi. Thanh ra toi muon ben nay phai muran ong nay, va ba dCrng co interfere. Tivc nghia la ba dCrng co can thiep vao chuyen do. File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 16 Kimberly: Da thi-- Da thu°a, [00:33:00] ngay Iuc do thi Ong khong not nhu° vay, nhu°ng ma minh biet la vi trurac day Ong cung co len tieng va cung co ngurai len tieng ma cung co nhieu ngurai lam [00:33:10] witness la ong da not la day la mot ngurai em cua toi va I am willing to take a bullet for him. Doan Trong: Oh I see. [00:33:20] The nhurng ma thura bac sq, the thi van de co khi nao ong not den van de cai titin Iu°ang cua ong nay durac tra nhu° the nao khong? Kimberly: Da ve van de titin Iu°ang cua ai a? [00:33:30] Doan Trong: Cua ong-ong Tyler Diep durac muran. Kimberly: Da thi-- Doan Trong: Trurac trurac khi toi hoi cai nay thi ba sy cho toi hoi cai nhu° the. The bac sq khi ma biet durac [00:33:40] ong tong quan tri muran ong Tyler Diep vao chit vu nay, thi bac sq co biet titin thanh pho se tra cho ong Tyler Diep la bao nhieu khong? Kimberly: Da thura that su° thi Kimberly khong durac biet la la [00:33:50] thanh ph -0 se muran ong tong quan tri nay. Tai vi-- minh khong phai muran ong tong quan tri ma mu6n Tyler Diep. Tai vi Kimberly thix What la [00:34:00] chia den phien hop ma. Vai Iai chung toi cung Iuc do la dang Iai xe di den Colorado 15 tie -ng. Kimberly con nha [00:34:10] la trong cai thai gian do thi durac mot cu phone, trong Iuc do la Kimberly durac mot cu phone tCr ong Iuat su° cua thanh ph -0 [00:34:20] hoi rang la bay gia do not vai chung toi la ong thi trurang, Ong muon cho [00:34:30] cho ong tong quan tri. Cai nay la Iuc do ho chf ban vai nhau thoi la Ong muon mu°an Ong Ong tong quan tri vai cai gia [00:34:40] la $9000. Doan Trong: Mu°an Ong Tyler Diep? Kimberly: Ong -Ong Tyler Diep. Da. Doan Trong: Ong tong quan tri. Kimberly: Mu -on cho Ong tong quan tri muran cho Ong Tyler Diep vai gia $9000. Thi Ong - [00:34:50] Doan Trong: Vay ky hap dung mot thang a? Kimberly: -Ong Iuat sur. MOt thang. Ong Iuat su° thanh pho Ong not nhu° the nay. Ong not la vi Kimberly co rat nhieu kinh nghiem ve business [00:35:00] ve thu°ang mai, thi Ong muon hoi Kimberly la cai gia nay Kimberly nghi sao? Thi minh minh cung phat curai la vi minh not [00:35:10] la trurac het la toi china bao gia toi muon mot ngurai tong quan tri de lam cai job nay a nai ca sa thu°ang mai cua toi, thi lam sao ma toi co the biet durac. Nhurng toi recommend [00:35:20] cho ong la tai toi khong co. TOi biet la ai, cai gi ma toi not day thi toi chf not theo cai y nghi cua toi thoi [00:35:30]. Nhurng ma neu ma cac Ong toi thay la cai ma Ong nen lam la Ong nen kiem mot cai position nao tu°ang durang va Ong da [00:35:40] muran trong qua Mh cho thanh pho thi Ong co the Ong lay cai do ra. Ong lay ho sa do ra Ong xem coi Ong muran ngurai do bao nhieu titin. Thi dau la khoang [00:35:50] may tieng sau thi Ong File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 17 luat su, thanh ph -0 co goi Kimberly not rang bay gia toi they la cai cai gia twang durang [00:36:00] do la vai mot cai position lobbyist nhu, vay thi la $5000 mot thang. Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: Da. Nhurng ma roi [00:36:10] anh bie-t la rot cuoc ong Tyler Diep durac muran, tai vi cai do la public infomation roi. Doan Trong: Da. Kimberly: La du°ac mu°an $7000. [00:36:20] Tai vi khi ma ong luat su, thanh ph -0 not $5000 a thi ong thi trurang Ta flue Tri rat la bu'c minh. Ong not la khong durac [00:36:30], khong the neo muran thang em toi la $5000 durac, tai vi no la phai muran no $9000. Nhurng ma roi okay bay gia xuong $7000 di. [00:36:40] Thi la ong not okay gia ong xuong gia la $7000. Doan Trong: Oh wow. Tuy nhien la -- Kimberly: Nhurng ma chinh ong la ngurai ma not la negotiate dum [00:36:50] cho Tyler Diep. Doan Trong: The luc do thi ong Tran The Van bie-t cai chuyen nay khong thura bac sq? Kimberly: Cai do thi Kimberly khong the neo bie-t durac nhCrng cai gi ma ho not vai nhau. Doan Trong: Nhurng ma ong Tran The Van khong co lobby cho cai ong [00:37:00] Tyler Diep? Kimberly: Da khong. Ong khong chinh thuc lobby Kimberly. Tai vi Kimberly cung dau co biet la thanh pho se muran. Da, tai vi cai do la ho biet ma ho di giong nhu, la [00:37:10] Tyler Diep di ngo trurac vao thanh ph -0 khong durac qua cai chac la city manager, la tong quan tri. [00:37:20] Tai vi bie-t la cac nghi vien phai bo phieu thi Kimberly da co phieu quyet Binh la da chong roi. Thi bay gia ho bie-t rang di cai ngo sau de- vao do la vai cai position la consultant thi ong city manager la ong tong quan tri [00:37:40] durac quye-n bo nhiem thi ho mai theo di cai durang IN do de- dura Tyler Diep vao. Thi khi ma dura vao thi con negotiate [00:37:50] luPang bong cua ong ta. Thi Kimberly they cai do rat la unacceptable. Cai do la mot ngurai tai vi Ta flue Tri dai digin [00:38:00] cho thanh ph -0, minh phai always minh dung on the side cua thanh pho. Minh khong the nao ma minh dung ve- phia ban minh. Da [00:38:10] hay la gia dinh minh khong the nao lam nhu, vay. That's not acceptable. Doan Trong: Vang kinh thura quy vi, hom nay thi chac le chong toi lai ca hoi, co mot cai ca hoi dac biet de [00:38:20] phong van ba nghi vien cua thanh pho Westminster. Viec trurac titin that la dang buon neu nhCrng lei ma ba bac sq Kimberly dura ra hom nay [00:38:30] la nhCrng dieu hoan town dung su, that. Thi le nhien vai tu, cach ca nhan cua toi, toi luon ton trong va toi nghi rang theo cai ca nhan toi nghi thi chac le vai tu, cach mot ngurai nghi vien vai la [00:38:40] mot ngurai bac sq, la File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 18 ngurai da tCrng dinh lien vai thanh ph -0 nay thi chac le nhCrng lai not cua ba kho co the sai trai. Nhurng tat ca chuyen gi cu -ng co the xay ra. Va neu tat ca [00:38:50] nhCrng sur kien nay no khong co sai trai thi day la mot cai sur ho then cho thanh ph 6- cua chung ta. Vi bao nhieu khong kho tin twang vao ong Ta OLk Tri de roi ong da co nhCrng cai [00:39:00] lien he ca nhan cua ong, lam ap Vc vai ngay cai ba Sherry Johnson a trong cai thai ky ba lam chLk vu la tong quan tri, de co the bo nhiem nhCrng cai ngurai ma nhCrng cai chLk vu [00:39:10] ma co the mang lai cai lai loc cho ong, mang lai be phai cho ong. Va ong da co nhCrng cai hanh dong ma co the not ca thanh pho nay thac mac khi ong dura mot ngurai nghe si [00:39:20] dau ben Viet Nam qua lay cai la ca vang ba soc do bo di. Chung toi mai quy vi thay hinh anh ong ngoi vai ong Ta OLk Tien-- ong Chu Tat Tien thi ong co ca vang. Ma den luc ong trao bang cho ba nay [00:39:30] thi ong ay. Nhurng ma do la chuyen cua ong, toi khong de- cap den hom nay. Nhurng qua nhCrng cai sur kien ma ba Kimberly hom nay not thi chac le ong Ta Oft Tri dinh den luc ong can tra lai cho moi ngurai bie-t ve- tat ca [00:39:40] nhCrng gi lien quan den chit vu thi trurang cua ong. Va neu tat ca nhCrng dieu nay dung that la su° that thi that su° dang ho then cho mot ngurai Viet Nam cua chung to a trong mot thanh pho mang danh la [00:39:50] thu do cua ngurai ti nan. Va chung toi luon luon tang nghe tie -ng not cua ong vi day la mot trong nhCrng dieu ngurai dan thanh pho Westminster, ngurai Viet Nam cua chung toi den dinh cu, tai Hoa Ky muon bie-t ve- mot ngurai [00:40:00] ma co the not neu tat ca chuyen nay su° nay suF that day la mot su° ho then cho cong dong ngurai Viet cua chung ta. Cam an ba bac sq hom nay den vai [00:40:10] churang trinh cua chung toi, le nhien chung toi se mai ba trong mot cai vai cai van de hom nay thi ba da not ra thanh pho, thi chung toi mu -on de cap den nhCrng cai may man chung toi khong co thi gia. Thi chung toi by vong vao [00:40:20] churang trinh ngay chu nhat tai day, thi chac le ba giup cho chung toi de- co nhCrng cai dieu kien. Co the moi ngurai tao mot cai-cai goi la mot sur hap Ong vai nhau qua nhCrng cai sur qua Mh . [00:40:30] Kimberly: Da. Doan Trong: Cam an quy vi da theo doi churang trinh cua chung toi va chung toi hen gap lai quy vi vao tuan tai. [00:40:40] File name: Phong Six Cong Dong Klmberly Ho 07082021 19